CABLE CAR RIG: A live bait rig to target surface predator from a jetty or pier.



This rig is design to secure the live bait at a spot and it able to swim freely about 1-2ft below water surface. Main target is those surface predator like wolf herring, queenfish, barracuda, barramundi or todak. It only can use at a jetty, pier or fishing on a high ground.


Here is how to set up a cable car rig:
1. Set up your tackle n tie a casting sinker to your main line.(Minimum 20lbs)
2. Cast out to about 50 meter n tighten your main line.
3. Put your rod down on the railing or rod holder.
4. Cut a 5ft Dupont line n tie one end to a snap swivel.
5. Tie the other end to a size one live bait hook.
6. Jig a live bait fish n hook it on the hook.
7. Clip the snap swivel onto your main line near to the rod tip.
8. Lift up your rod tip high so that the live bait can slide down into the water.
9. Tighten your main line again n set your drag.

That all you need to do n do not go far away as if there is any hook up you need to strike to set the hook deep in. Once the hook is set, wind in the line until you feel the tension. Do another strike if you want to comfirm the hook set. From there you can carry on the normal fight. Remember, never loosen the line at any time during the fight. It will cost you the fish been lost.



Thanks Allan Chan for this above nice drawing.

Note: Your main line must have at least 20lbs breaking strenght.

the bead is to prevent the swivel from going down to the weight ?

Yes, that is the purpose of it there. But myself I don't use it. I prefer to let the rig down all the way to the sinker.

Hi bro SA, went to bjt last week and saw this man using a rig like the one above, but he attached a float below the swivel. Will doing so affect the effectivenes of this rig? Anyway, thnks for the advice on casting, having much less birdnest liao.

Well i think if you are using e float on the CABLE CAR RIG the leader of the hook have to be longer as you are targetting mid water fish like the queenies . but remember wen you have a hit dont strike e rod tat fast wait till you feel the Tight tension

SA correct if i'm wrong

Yup, the choice is yours. For me I don't use float. Some they like to use a float with the rig. But for those using float, as what Allan say, wait till you are sure of a hookup then strike. This is because the float may cushion off a solid hookup. Strike too early may cause loosing the fish. Don't forget most surface fish will do acrobatic jump when you strike. If the hookup is not solid, a few jump n it will throw out the hook.

What abt on a local kelong? Is it possible to use this technique?

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If it is a real kelong where the ground is high up above the water it shouldn't have problem applying this method. Only thing is the current might quite strong so U need a heavier sinker to hold bottom. But if its a fish farm(most young guys call it kelong) where the ground is at water level than I think U have a problem of using it. Reason is the live bait from the rig won't go far out due to the same level on the sea surface.

Sorry Shoreangler.. But how can I tell if one is a real kelong or a fish farm?

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Very simple. A real kelong is those built high above water. Singapore has only left one or two of them n not open to public. Those that we see at Ubin n southern island are all fish farm. Those at sibu are real kelong but they are only for leisure use n not catching fishes to make money.

Alrite... I need some help here.. I might be gng to a kelong/fish farm dis Saturday..

In terms of rig LSBF isit alrite to use that? Wat abt bait? Wat is recommended?


Thanx SA for ur views.

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Rig depend on the current flow. If its strong use LSBF. If has slow current use SSBF. I assume the fish farm at ubin. Bait depend on what fishes U targeting:
1)KBL use live prawn
2)Small fishes like guramah/ sickle fish use worm or prawn meat.
3) Catfish or grouper use squid.
4) Threadfin or queenfish use tamban

Don't expect too high on this part of water. Lots of small catfish n gulamah.

what we used to do is before we go for kelong fishing we blend a nice concoction of old fish meat, prawnshells,sotong o wat lying around in the fridge.Maybe even a tin of tuna in water(dnt use the one that got chilli or other flavours).then we take to the spot and jus before fishing we drop or throw 1 or two scoops around the area to attract the fish.But what u can expect is very varied but better something happen than no action at all rite?wat u guys think?

Yup, can practice it if U are hard working enough. Thanks for sharing here. Cheer....

mALaKiAn....
remember me???
Just to let you know dat kbl is not d season yet so do not bring plenties of live prawn,however bring some for ''test market'' rather than none!Take it as reminder......d choice is yours!!!

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...& slowly,surely it gonna fades away...it's a matter of time...Bye Fnr....

hEy mR fishmanokbl... yes I still remember U..

Ouh thanx alot for de reminder.. Will bear that in mind.. Speaking of which when roughly is the season for kbl?

Cheers mate.

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Starts from sep till end of may,but my personal preferences.....when sees those 4inches of sexy live-prawns......every trip is seasons.......hahaha!!!

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...& slowly,surely it gonna fades away...it's a matter of time...Bye Fnr....

hahaha.. i guess thats true mate... Coz u never know if there's a ''lost sheep'' out there... n best of all... when luck is by ur side... who knows...


Hope to hear a CR from U soon bro...

Cheers...

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Shore ,
hi how do people actually tie 2 hooks on cable car and why do some people use float on it ?



many thanxs !

U mean 2 seperate snoods or one snood 2 hook?

Flat is for people to see where their line is...

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This cable car rig U can either use it with a float or without. There is advantage n disadvantage.

If use with float,

Advantage is when U are fishing along the side of the jetty along with a good current flow, the float will prevent the live bait fish from swept downward by the strong current.

Disadvantage is if the sea is choppy, the float may cause a weak hookup due to it floating up n down with the choppy sea. I have witness many of this weak hookup.

Without float,

Advantage it will have a firmer hookup as the tension on the main line n the rig is strong.

Disadvantage is if the current is too strong, the live bait could be swept down to the bottom of the sinker.

As for two hook on the rig, one is the sliding hook. A two hook rig will help a more secure hookup as we know especially queenfish will jump up n try to throw out the hook. With another hook it work as another anchor point.

so when you fight fish. how do you stop the hook of the fish? with the weight?

so it's the hook of the fish against the weight?

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What I'm angling is not a single fish, but the king and the great many vassals. Only those who really wish to go on the hook will be fished by me
3 kind of people in this world
1) who wait for things to happen
2) who makes things happen
3) who don't know what's happening

Yup...unless U want to tie another bottom rig with another hook. The sinker is large enough to stop the swivel clip.

can use steel wire instead of dupont lines?

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Thanxs shore,mods

been such a great help since i 1st join this forum , back to the topic anyway
since the rig is free/loose how do we ensure a solid hook up ? and how do you , actually tie a double hook on a cable car , sorry if i ask alot !!! psps




thanxs AGAIN

Steel wire too heavy. The live bait will have problem swimming with it.



This is where your main line tension came in. U need to maintain a firm tension on the main line. In order to do so, your sinker must heavy enough to hold bottom. Your drag must not too loose also so that when the fish strike, it will have a firm hookup. Plus when U saw the rod tip bend, your immediate strike also play an important part. That why I say U cannot stay too far away from your rod.

I have done it today without problem. Three strike three hookup despite very strong cross wind.

As for the two hook, here is the picture with three hook. U only need two will do. One main n one slide.

SA, i've been thinking for the longest time.

do you mind if anyone walks up to you while you're fishing and starts asking you questions?

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What I'm angling is not a single fish, but the king and the great many vassals. Only those who really wish to go on the hook will be fished by me
3 kind of people in this world
1) who wait for things to happen
2) who makes things happen
3) who don't know what's happening

Great minds think alike ! Shore another question 2 baits put on both hook ? 2hooks on 1 bait! AND!! do you use baiting needle ? or just hook on its tail !


MANY THANXS AGAIN!

hi SA, i tried the method on fri.

some how the rig have problem going all the way into the sea, normally is once the bait touches the water, my swivel wont go down anymore. i was using a 30lb braided line and a 10ft rod. is it due to the braided being too rough for the swivel to slide down?

also, must i use a live tamban, cos i use a dead tamban and it also just floated on the water.

thanks

anyway, all i got were some bite marks on the tamban...some how the fish keep biting, but of all places it wont bite the hook.

Depend on when you come. If at night I busy catching squid, sorry I can't help anyone. Another reason is I got long sighted so can't see well like tying knot n rig. If at daytime when I am free, anything also can talk, That why I always ask those who want to learn come on a saturday morning. Reason is I have free time n also the jetty is not so crowded. It will be easy for a beginner to learn n at the sametime can see how other fish.

First thing do U really read through this whole post ? It must be crazy to put two live bait fish on a single rig. Here we are talking about live bait..so where the need of a baiting needle ? Please read through the who post before U ask. Your query is a bit out.

First U use a dead tamban...It won't swim so how do U expect it to go under water ? Second U could have been fishing on the wrong side of the current flow. I know there are some people like to be smart. Always fish different from other...so when they see that side got too many people fish, they go the opposit side. But cable car rig need to fish along with the current. If U put it on the opposit side, the oncoming current will push your bait up on the surface for sure.
So be smart, next time just monkey see monkey do. I don't think there are other angler use dead tamban on a cable car rig.

SA, i have a question. for the line used to tie the weight, can i use a braided line? means straight line from my reel n tie a weight at the end of the line after setin up the rod?

Yes U can but make sure the knot tie is strongly secure with the sinker. It is the only stopper for the rig so do it properly.

ha humanform.
you hear him? he is most welcoming on saturday morning.
i am going to PM him if he likes coffee more or teh-ni more, before i visit him.

and i shall not date humanform bro, because if i can go on saturday. i'll have SA all to myself. ;p

i actually meant i work irregular hours. and i got to bring along my ah sum who is very leh chay one. you know one, they need toilet unlike guys.

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What I'm angling is not a single fish, but the king and the great many vassals. Only those who really wish to go on the hook will be fished by me
3 kind of people in this world
1) who wait for things to happen
2) who makes things happen
3) who don't know what's happening

steady i go try it out. if i can hit a fish. any size . . .
i shall not trouble you at BJT. but if i can't improve my luck . . .
i go learn fish sotong from you . . . don't worry i'll just watch and not talk. and i can be great help. because i am short sighted. i can see lobang pretty clearly. ha.

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What I'm angling is not a single fish, but the king and the great many vassals. Only those who really wish to go on the hook will be fished by me
3 kind of people in this world
1) who wait for things to happen
2) who makes things happen
3) who don't know what's happening

so after casting out the sinker, n sliding the bait down into the water, does this make the bait close to the jetty? or will it be washed out by the current? all ur hook-ups quite close to jetty?

btw, Shoreangler will u be wearing fnr t-shirt everytime u go bjt? cos i scared cant recognise u. lol.

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look out for his blue slippers lolol.

Yes... all this predator are very close to the jetty chasing the tamban. If U cast too far out...U will notice no bite at all.